Senate President Morse Steps On Dem Gun Control Message

January 21, 2013
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Senate President John Morse (D-Colo. Spgs.) dismissed the impact of several proposed gun control measures in an interview last week

DENVER – In an interview with CBS4last week, Senate President John Morse (D-Colo. Springs) proclaimed his belief that additional background checks and a ban on high capacity magazines would do little to limit gun violence, stepping on a key message coming from supporters of gun control in his own party.

“How does a limit on high-capacity magazines reduce violence?” Morse asked rhetorically in the interview.

The Senate President’s sentiments come as a number of gun control measures are expected to be taken up in the State Legislature.

Morse’s fellow Democrat, Representative Rhonda Fields (D-Aurora), is pushing a bill that would require background checks on all purchases of guns, from Craigslist sales to hunters trading guns amongst themselves. Fields is also reportedly working on a bill to limit the capacity of magazines.

Morse, for his part, would like to see much more sweeping legislation — specifically a ban on “assault weapons” — but acknowledges both the difficulty of legally defining an “assault weapon” as well as the challenge of getting such a controversial measure passed.

Gun rights supporters are becoming increasingly vocal in their opposition to new proposed laws, with upwards of 1000 people attending a 2nd Amendment rally at the state capitol on Saturday. That compared to a meeting of around 200 gun control supporters last week, who met at First Plymouth Church in Englewood to plan strategy and write their representatives. 

President Obama is proposing similar legislation at the federal level, though much of it is unlikely to pass Congress as Republicans control the House of Representatives.

With both chambers of the Colorado Legislature controlled by Democrats, gun control legislation is more likely to happen at the state-level than federally, but even that legislation will face a tough road ahead with the Senate President already dismissing the impact of any such proposals.

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24 Responses to Senate President Morse Steps On Dem Gun Control Message

  1. wrongheifer
    January 21, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Mr. Morse is correct…why is that wrong?

  2. Shrugged
    January 22, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Craigslist does not allow firearms sales. A fact, among many others, that seems to continually escape Ms. Fields.

  3. ThatGuy
    January 22, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Politicians are so cute when they screw up and tell the truth.

    Uh, oh. Did someone take their truth pill?

    I think he realizes that he isn’t going to risk his majority by agitating gun owners who will vote out marginal democrats that vote for it- and make no difference in the real world.

  4. Dave
    January 22, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Lets see the state does not have enough money to staff prisons,jails, courts, schools, colleges but we need to waste time and money tryIng to take away people’s natural rights. Which are recognized ,not given in the state and federal constitutions. Already 2/3 of the citizens in NY say they will not comply with the illegal law passed, do the mandarins in Denver think the citizens of CO will. Not now not never Molan Labe

  5. Dabney Crayon
    January 22, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    The dems, both statewide and nationally, are nazi elites who wish to control every breathing moment of their subject’s lives. No salt, no sugar, no smoking, wear your seatbelt and ABSOLUTELY NO guns. The list goes on forever. But killing babies is OK.

    • Frank
      January 23, 2013 at 4:29 pm

      RIGHT ON BROTHER

    • Harry Powers
      January 29, 2013 at 11:56 am

      Thank you for your very cogent response to our incoherent democrat representatives….

    • David Smith
      January 29, 2013 at 12:47 pm

      Very good point Dabney!

  6. Sidney Patin
    January 23, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Mr. Morse should apply his same logic to the issue of so-called assault weapons. Banning any specific weapons or magazines will do nothing to stop crime. Criminals will just get whatever they want. Law abiding citizens, if they comply with the law, will be mostly disarmed. If the law abiding choose not to comply with an unconstitutional law, then they become the criminals.

  7. Jim Mapes
    January 23, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    I applaud his candor and honesty in regards to magazine limitations. I would assume his point of view is from the knowledge that Eric Harris was using 10 round magazines at Columbine, with no opposition he had no trouble shooting ruoghly 100 times at victims.

    As for background checks, I would disagree. Preventing legal access to arms to known dangerous persons is at least partially effective in lowering their ability to commit crimes. Again, Mr. Morse is correct it won’t stop it in totality because criminals by definition won’t follow laws. However, though I am a very ardent supporter of 2nd Amendment rights I do not have a problem with having background checks for any sale/transfer – AS LONG AS it is not used to implement some type of registration scheme. It makes sense to ascertain I am not enabling a violent felon when selling a gun, it also gives a documented break in ownership should the new owner commit a crime with it. Registration however, has been shown to create great evil as it is usually followed by confiscation attempts by latter authorities, ie the Nazis used the Weimar Republic’s registration to disarm their victims prior to the Holocaust.

    As for “AW” bans, firmly opposed. The 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting, its about balance of power between citzens and government. About our ability to defend ourselves from tyranny, foreign invasion, civil insurrection, riots. As someone that saw firsthand the LA riots in ’92 I can assure you having an AR 15 or similar firearm is direly pertinent when faced with scores of people weilding weapons and firebombs and bent on your destruction. During that same time the LAPD was absent for 4 days, leaving the population at large on their own vs the mobs.

    Your need for an “assault weapon” is only a flash mob away.

    • Winghunter
      January 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm

      Background checks have NEVER denied a bad guy from getting any weapon he wants and they are always used to document gun owners.

    • Sportsman
      January 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm

      For background checks on all firearm transfers to work, all firearms would need to be registered. How else would you know a transfer took place? If you want a background check and document trail for your own protection, why not go to a FFL and pay them to do it? I am sure they would love to earn another $30.

  8. Winghunter
    January 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Well, Morse will certainly not make his re-election bid. Colorado Springs will chew him up and spit him out.

    • wasntme
      February 4, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      Probably not over this. El Paso county sent a very nice letter about the Constitution to the WH telling them to stick it.

  9. Gary F. Cholas
    January 25, 2013 at 7:11 am

    What I would like to know is when the politicians are going to admit that they are chasing a good feeling and not doing the right thing for the country. Assault Weapons are not the problem because it is already against the law to own one, The problem is Society is broke and they don;t want to admit it. The mental condition of criminals is what needs to be dealt with. Criminals will still have weapons if they pass a law and the law abiding citizen will take the brunt of what comes out of that.

    • Lynn
      February 15, 2013 at 6:19 pm

      so true!

  10. mark v
    January 26, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    these loosers need to be removed from office..if they really try to outlaw guns for lawfull citizens..well i will make it my personal mission to get them fired!!im so sick of their transparent crap. it will never stop criminals from comitting crimes ..these sickening f%#k’s think we are so stupid. fkn howdoody hickenpooooofter he slipped up and said he didnt think anything would have stopped the aurora shooter, he had a rare attack of honesty, then im sure they got to him and said you better get back on the bus if you want your political caresr to go any further. now howdy doody is leading the charge here in colorado. this is the line we cant let them cross.the gun control issue is more important than all others we have to be able to resist tyranny we have to be able to protect ourselves. i would have never thought this would even be possible in the US !!! if we dont somehow tell these fkers what will happen to them if they dont back off they are just going to keep walking all over our rights!

  11. Tracie
    January 29, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    I keep hearing gun control is what the people want. And yet I have talked to many many people and have yet to find one who agrees with them. Wonder where the stats come from. Now is the time to stand up and say no and let all politicians even those for gun control know we will not back down. We put them in office for the protection of our rights. Not to take them from us.

  12. Lynn
    February 15, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    I don’t want to live in a society where fear of survival is a daily issue, where criminals have authority over those who follow the rules, and where the government has been granted authority that oversteps the bounds of the Constitution. I don’t want to live in another Chicago or NYC which have some of the strictest gun control measures in the country and also the highest violent crime rates. Why do we keep focusing our attention on the gun….a “thing” that will not, under its own accord, get up and harm anyone, just like a car or a hammer (which were each used in more murders than “assault weapons” last year) won’t hurt anyone. Limiting my access to guns or to additional rounds only limits my ability to protect myself and my family from intruders, potential rapists and other crazy people who will always find a way to get what they want by using any “tool” that’s available …. their fists/hands, a knife, hammer, explosives made from easily obtainable chemicals, etc. The definition of insanity is to continue doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results….yet we are trying to pass the same/similar laws to places with higher violent crime rates than we have and somehow it’s going to have a different effect in Colorado?

    Gun free zones are areas asking for criminals to do wrong…if you wanted to rob/kill/rape someone, would you do it in an area where you think you may meet resistance (i.e. someone with a gun) or a place where you know guns aren’t allowed? The only people who are going to follow the gun laws are the ones who aren’t intending to do anything harmful with them in the first place. Making drugs illegal obviously hasn’t stopped our drug problem, so why do you think banning certain types of guns/magazines or banning all guns from certain locations (schools/college campuses) is going to be any different?

    I am working on my masters at UC-Denver and attend night classes. I have been told by police officers not to go to campus without carrying and definitely not to ride the light rail home by myself without carrying. If this is the advice I’m receiving from law enforcement, the people who are supposed to keep us safe, why would I think that it’s ok for our government to limit my ability to carry on school property?

    Stripping me of my 2nd amendment right to protect myself is infuriating and makes me extremely disappointed in our ELECTED officials… How can you possibly considers such measures that will ultimately make Colorado a more DANGEROUS place to live? Given the strong correlation between countries/states/cities with strict gun control and their high violent crime rates (look at South Africa for example –a place with very strict gun laws where people have to put up security fences around their homes and put up gates around their bedrooms INSIDE their homes to protect them from intruders), why on earth would we want to follow this path?!

    Please consider reviewing the statistics at http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    this YouTube video also sheds some interesting light on gun control statistics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0&feature=share&list=UUaGoVAB64Ojh3JU_VPis8ig

  13. John n
    March 9, 2013 at 11:20 am

    It just amazes me how each democratic controlled state just seems to be in a contest to see how they can “out do” the other states when it comes to gun bans. In Colorado, they ridicule a victim of rape, criminalize good citizens and feel they are the moral authority for everyone. ONLY 373 people were killed in 2011 nationwide with rifles and more were killed by hands (FBI stat). Columbine was committed by kids with 10 round magazines and propane tanks. Paducah, KY was committed with a .22 cal rifle. “Assault rifles” are not the problem but respect for others has disappeared from society. Both of these example occurred during the last weapons ban and were NOT prevented.

    In Los Angeles, you NEVER heard a person blame the type of weapon former officer Dorner used in his rampage but blamed him for the violence. Dems can’t swallow this fact. I am in law enforcement and former SWAT officer and have been shot at and realize its the person and not the method. Period. Anytime you hear a police chief get on TV and proclaim we need to ban guns it is always an “appointed” chief and not an “ELECTED” sheriff. The appointed chief is a politician and usually doesn’t share the views of the rank and file officers but is only saving his 100k+ salary to appease democratic mayors and he realizes behind closed doors that prosecution is the key.

    Finally, I write this in support of the 2nd amendment and am urging those reading to only spend money and go on vacations in 2nd amendment supported states. Currently, pot smoking Colorado and its gun views are not worthy of your money but there are other western states that offer everything Colorado can. I cancelled a ski vacation to Colorado and enjoyed Jackson Hole, WY in FEB2013. Price of the trip was $6500. Colorados first lose from my family!!!!

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